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Ground rules on Openers

I can give you some ‘ground rules’ on openers that I have learn over the years.

  1. The easiest way to open any person is to first establish eye contact and a genuine smile. The door is then open. Don’t take to long then.
  2. NEVER EVER interrupt a conversation. Chipping in will lose points very quickly.
  3. If its a large group of women, your chances are slim getting an opener so refer to point 1
  4. Be original. But my rule here is you have observed certain things about the girl/s so use that to open.
  5. LOOK relaxed even though you are not.
  6. Try smiling guys, this is fun
  7. Give girls their space. Look like you are passing by by turning your body in the direction you are going and when she turns to you, then you can turn towards her.
  8. NEVER ASSUME that she is available. Often girls have boyfriends an want a good time out. So don’t feel bad if you don’t get her number.
  9. Remember girls play games. Play with.
  10. Make them laugh with real humour! Take them to stand-up comedy shows if you struggle with humour.

We meet women every day at work, in public places. Just be natural, talk to as many as possible. Make comments that make people smile when you are in a lift or standing at the till. Make clean jokes in public. Here’s some more tips about openers.

  1. Women are always tense except when they are drunk ( sometimes they are tense too ) Keep this in mind.
  2. If you are so glued onto one kind of opener you might fall into a rut and only open some kinds of girls.
  3. Never compliment a girl directly the first time. Say things that make her women what you are thinking. Don’t say you have a beautiful dress on, rather say, its an interesting outfit you have. I find that a guy needs to keep his mystery. A hunter needs to keep himself hidden in order to get close to his DEER (dear)

Here’s a short and quick break-down of the core mistake that guys make when approaching women: they hover…

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Help me keep the conversation going

Recently a guy asked sent me the following email:

guy and girl having a conversationI have been making good progress in pick up, i have worked the confidence and can open and have a set routine. Problem is, I need some better, more quality openers. I also end up getting the ladies attention and then struggle to keep the convo going, or more importantly, get her to keep the convo going with me. Does anyone have any routines that i could use or tips on how to overcome this setback? So basically im looking for easy openers, routines, and any other tips.”

The most basic step is to ensure you are comfortable having conversations with anyone you meet on a daily basis. So when you’re putting petrol in your car, have a conversation with the guy doing that; when you buying something from a shop, have a conversation with the woman behind the counter.

You should never limit your “practise” conversation to attractive women. This will limit how quickly you are able to make progress. Ultimately you want to break through any barriers from your “society programming” as Bad boy calls it. Reading books will not help you in this one. You actually have to have real conversations with women and men out there in the real world, not online.

So a suggestion I made before to accelerate your game is to join a Toastmasters club. This is one of the best ways to practise a variety of skills and get feedback after each speech you make.

Maybe another suggestion is to meet up once a week with a group of guys from this forum and practise word association games, like making up a story one word at a time. There is no such thing as practising spontaneous conversation except to go out there and talk to people.

Another good location to do this is at a flea market. At such a place you can talk to the stall owners, and you talk to the other people who’re shopping around for bargains.