1. He who opens the set, owns the set. He gets first choice of target.
2. Don’t ever steal the target. Unless you get approval from your wingman.
3. If the wingman approaches your set, you will turn to face him. Never leave him standing without acknowledging and/or introducing him.
4. Only build rapport when you see IOI”s coming from the set.
5. The wingman must never introduce himself to the set or ask to be introduced.
6. Upon entering the set DHV each other.

How does the wingman know who is the target if he is ignoring/negging his target. You should make clear to the wing who exactly the target is. You are allowed to exchange or swap targets by notifying your wingman.

Enter the Wingman:

You have opened a set and have enough time to pass the hook point. The wing approaches you. Asks have you seen Michelle? If you say yes, you mean he can join the set. The wingman enters and can say “What are you guys talking about? how do you all know each other?, etc” or go into a routine.

If you say no it means he can’t join the set and that you need to leave the set soon.

Or

Both of you go into the set at the same time:

Use the drug lord, hitman, wedding, prom, model, etc opener. An opener where both of you are involved in the conversation.

Once both you and the wing are in the set for roughly 4-5 minutes. If you guys are not sure of what to do next. Don’t ever leave the set
without agreeing with your wingman. By agreeing you could use “Should we go find Simon” meaning STAY in the set or “Should we go find Lance” meaning LEAVE the set. Ask your wing or vice versa. If you guys do decide to leave the set do not leave without the number close. If you are sarging during the day, before you leave the set say something like there is this huge party with Models and Cocktails happening in the area, I can’t remember the clubs name. It starts with an S, I will send you the details what is your number? In clubs it is better to DHV and get a timebridge for a successful number close, if not the number that you got is like a piece of wood.

Wingwomen/Pivot rules

1. They need to know that you are out to get other women. (If not, they are not classified as wingwomen)
2.  Don’t go with a pivot that you want to f close, unless you want to get a threesome. They are usually used as pawns in clubs.
3.  If are you going with one wingwoman, she needs to take care of the obstacles by herself.
4.  They need to be constantly dhv’ing you to the sets and the targets. Walk in the club with 2 pivots, one in each arm and hb’s will open you up. Easy!!!!!

Optional Routine

If the set asks you what are your professions say that you are consultants. (Credit goes to William for this). We are mainly business
consultants, we just started recently on having sex consultations. We give advice on how to have better sex in bed. Its surprising as to see how much clients are making appointments to see us the last month. We are soo busy, guys just don’t know how to please a woman anymore. Different types of couples makes appointments with us and don’t know how to deal with their sexual issues. It’s really funny when the 55 year old and older couples book with us. The old women always complains that the old guy never gets a bona like before and is a viagra addict. bla bla bla. If someone can, please add more info to the routine. Somehow afterwards you need to say you were just kidding.

If on the occasion your wingman ditches/flakes on you. Go out out on your own, after all you are the leader of men. Your wingman is going to miss out on the fun and excitement. You will get excuses like “I have to work tomorrow” “Im too tired, maybe tomorrow”. You can still go for a sarge and come home before 11pm.

Rules are meant to be broken, so break it. But remember by breaking this rules it might ruin your chances of getting laid. And don’t ever blame each other for the wreck that happened, it is your own fault. You need to take charge. It’s all about good sportsmanship.

I was on a camp this weekend, my aim was NOT to sarge. My main aim was to CHILL and HANGOUT with friends. I switched my phone off for 3 days, didn’t wanna have any disturbances from the outside world. I wanted to take break from city life.

The moment we parked our cars and set our tents. I didn’t expect to see so many hb’s. You won’t find 10′s or supermodels but there were lots of good looking ones. My friend said I must not bring any women back to the tent as there is no extra space. Like I said I never came to sarge but when my friends were sleeping and napping I did.

I hate using canned routines, too much memorising for me. I never used any routines, I was just being myself and after all it was a camp. I tried all sorts of openers and one opener I call the Tent System, the tent has no door where you can knock on so all you do is open it and say wrong tent and ask if you can join. Tried it many times.

I had 2 threesome opportunities I opened a 5 set, the bisexual hb (7) saw me talking to the 5 set then she ran a situational opener on me. She number closed me within 5 minutes, she said her gf is taking nap. I thought let me try out a threesome. We went over to her tent to introduce me to her gf I then went away immediately. Her gf looks like FREAKING dude.

I opened a 2 set hb 8 and hb 6. They came to the event on their own and didn’t have a tent to stay in. I told them they can sleep in my car. I wanted to close the hb 8 but didn’t have a wingman to take care of the obstacle. So I decided if this is how the game is played then lets play it this way.

There was 3 days full of daygame, nightgame, morninggame, eveningame, sunsetgame, sunrisegame, whatever you guys want to call it. Whether you a PUA or AFC, or whether you are good with women or not. There was no excuses to get laid.

I would recommend these type of events for anybody that wants to get good practice and to get rid of approach anxiety. Anybody that wants to get laid without using routines and shit. Its good for guys that just want to get laid without playing solid
game. It was that easy.

And Happy New Year to all the active and inactive pua’s on this lair.

** 5 key things that we should keep in mind when looking for love online

1. Avoid profiles with no photos or bad quality photos. That person is not serious about meeting anyone and may have negative feelings about their self-image.
2. Avoid anyone Russian or Nigerian online because these are the most common fraudulent profiles.
3. Focus on refining your “About” and “Looking For” sections to be fun and easy to read. If you cannot tell that to the man or woman’s face, don’t write it there.
4. Start with a narrow focus and slowly broaden your scope. For example choose one hair colour you prefer, before adding all the others or choose one major city, before expanding to whole province or country.
5. Set-up all the first dates on the same evening and maximise your time. Your are not going to find your one true love the first time, so be practical about how you qualify the man or woman you want to continue dating after the first date.

Before I share my answer with you, let me tell you a little bit about my background. I have been “in love” several times so far in my 39 years on this planet. Each breakup was very difficult because of something I noticed about the nature of women.

One of the bittersweet things I noticed about my relationships with women is that I could never fully replace the emotions and experience I had with any of them, once the relationship was over. Perhaps you can relate to the emotion of longing to replace something with a woman who is now long gone from your life, and being unable to do so no matter how many new women you meet. I have felt that sort of pain too many times to mention. However, there is a flip side to this that is much more positive: with each new relationship comes a brand new set of experiences and emotions that could not have been had with any of the previous women!

In spite of the fact that in significant ways, every woman is unique, I have also noticed that all women have enough in common with each other that we can make some useful generalizations about them, including specific personality categories. Some of these categories include high self-esteem (HSE), low self-esteem (LSE), Materialista, Good Girl and Adventuress, and so on. I won’t get into detail with these categories today, but I need to emphasize that making such distinctions is in no way making a moral judgment for or against certain women or their behavior patterns. Rather, these categories are very useful tools when it comes to screening.

Screening is important because your time and your energy are finite resources that should be spent wisely. I’ll have much more to say about screening in the future, but suffice it to say for now that if you are not wise when it comes to choosing your female companions, you are essentially robbing time and energy from women you would be more compatible with. So then, do I feel it is possible to love more than one woman at a time? Absolutely I do!

Many people view love as a fixed sum, finite entity. In other words, they believe that there is only so much love that one can offer to the world. Those of us who are parents know how preposterous the idea is that loving one person means you need to shut it off for someone else. Of course, there is the issue of time and resource management. However, I have a daughter whom I love more than anyone else. When I have a second child, I will love that child as well. To say that this means I will by necessity love my daughter any less, is preposterous.

Love is not a finite resource. Time and energy are finite; love is not.

The word ‘love’ in itself means a lot of different things to different people. For me, I feel all sorts of different emotions with every friendship and every romance. Many of these emotions overlap with each other, but the complete emotional experience is never identical from one relationship to the next.

You can and should be aware of what types of love you feel for which people, because this will enable you to set standards and manage your time and energy. More importantly, it will help you to select the right people to receive your time and energy. In all my experience I see no limits to the nature and types of love you can feel for any number of people. As far as I can tell, the only limits are your imagination, your time, and your energy.

Success = preparation + opportunity. I can help you to acquire the skills to meet and attract lots of women, to select the right ones for you, and then to maintain those relationships for as long as you want and circumstances permit. You will need to be proactive in meeting these women and escalating any relationship towards its logical outcome. If you are willing to do this, you will have more opportunities for passionate love than you would otherwise; indeed, more than most men alive today will ever have.
Jordan Harbinger is a Wall Street lawyer turned Social Dynamics expert. He is the owner and co-founder of The Art of Charm, a dating and relationships coaching company, as well as the co-host of ‘Go Legendary’, a men’s lifestyle & social dynamics talk show. If you dig this and want to learn more from Jordan and The Art of Charm Team, then visithttp://www.theartofcharm.com

If by using PUA we make the woman get attracted to us, then by becoming better REAL MEN, having fun and living interesting lives, develop supreme social skills and social confidence, then the women will want to join us, even before we use any lines on them. A story is told of YOGISAN, the pua natural, who could even make a woman orgasm by just winking at her or giving her a hug. Now that is legendary. All he did was walk into a room and women would buckle (weak knees). No lines, no routines, to number-closes, just introduced each other and extract to a different location for the deed. MYSTERY, STYLE, HYPOTNICA, etc have all evolved to the point where they are good because of their lifestyle and aura around them, that they don’t need to use routines any more, Get to a venue, -say hi to a few people – have fun with the people you came with, and the women will choose them. At which point they don’t think number close, or kiss close, they think where can i take this girl right now and close the deal.

They have Transformed themselves into Genuine, Confident, Successful Man that Quality Woman CRAVES for. That craving makes her act on her instincts and responds to them, by getting laid. if you have been craving for something for so long and its hard to come by. you even think it will never comedy, and one day you see it, (think you have seen it), you may tell yourself what the heck, I gotta have this.

Women respond to that emotion. In one of my rare success, I was in bed with this girl (2hours after we met in a shop), and she told me i made her feel something and at that point she didn’t care she had a boyfriend, she just wanted to go with it, to finally feel it, have it. to be taken and be done to this things she has always craved.

• even in our midst on this FORUM we have GURUs, who don’t have to go sarging, they get women in their normal social places, they have developed a systems and lifestyle where or which involves meeting beautiful women daily, and the system susses / sieves the women. in a nutshell the women come to them.

Also my view is that every PUA has different goals in PUA. others want quick lays, others want long term good quality lays, but you must choose what you want. and be congruent with it deep inside (inner game).

• One day if i stop being lazy, and overcome my approach anxiety, stop worrying about movies and what other people think about movies and me, stop being an internet PUA and stop being a Television PUA, stop being a articles / book PUA and get out there in the field, and lead women on that path …. i will one day become the YOGISAN GURU that i want to be.

• The only problem is that just like a ladder, you never will get to the top easily, you gotta start from the bottom. start sarging, start improving your lifestyle, start being social, try out routines, forget approach anxiety and just approach, CRASH and BURN. work on your inner game, before you know it .. you will be in the middle of the ladder.

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During my early twenties (my pre-awakening years), I was dating someone I really liked. My best friend was seeing his best friend and it was great. Unfortunately, my friend’s guy was being a little flaky and she was mad at him. During that time, my love interest cancelled plans with me because of a conflict. My girlfriend told me to stand up for myself and lay it all on the line. So, I called him back and said that I was not going to put up with him cancelling at the last minute and I guess I should look for someone else to date if he wasn’t going to commit. This was totally out of character for me and it felt awkward. Guess what? He never called me again.

Of course, after years of transformation I would not even consider doing something like that again. I always wondered if I had a dating coach I would have avoided many of these silly foibles. I would have found my way much sooner instead of spending the next twenty years filled with hurtful love relationships.
How many times have you taken advice from your best friend and it turned into a debacle? Or, have you read one of those advice books written from a man’s point of view only to have it blow up in your face? If you need help with your relationships, the best person to turn to is a Love or Dating Coach.

A good Love Coach doesn’t give advice on how to react in certain situations because she knows that every person and situation is unique. A love coach does not teach you how to love others, but helps you love yourself. If you want love in your life and it isn’t showing up, there is something within you that is blocking it. A Love Coach can help you discover the blind-spots that are preventing you from attracting true love.

Some people ask if they can do the work on their own and I believe that they can. The benefit of hiring a coach is that you get results at a faster rate because you are not stuck navigating within the muck of your own false thinking. A Love Coach can be your guide to ask questions that will laser any situation and have you see it more clearly and make more empowered decisions in your dating life. The most important element when choosing a coach is having a great rapport with her or him and they allow you to find your own answers.

In my practice, I use the technique of hypnosis which is simply a guided visualization process with the acceleration of hypnotic suggestions. This isn’t about dancing in your happy place with butterflies, but discovering the deep, subconscious blocks that keep you from having everything you want in life – including a happy relationship. The best thing about using hypnosis with your coaching program is that you don’t need to invest a lot of money.

Most clients need just 3-6 sessions before their inner mind is shifted and they are experiencing a new level of confidence in dating and finding the one. With what could take months with a regular coach, a woman can see her love life start to shift immediately after the first session. I have had some clients meet their true love within weeks after using hypnosis.

I believe anyone who wants love can have it in their life and that they are the only one stopping the natural flow of love toward them. Since the subconscious mind is not logical, this can be difficult to analyze on your own. A Love Coach can shine the light on the mystery and reveal the person you were meant to be in relationships.

The truth about hypnosis and love coaching is that it is fun, it is easy and it works. I know that the use of hypnosis is the main reason why I transformed from a disastrous dater to a confident woman with a great love in her life.

1. Being with me is the best possible choice any woman can make: Now, can you prove that this is true? No, of course not. It isn’t a factual statement about an objective truth; it’s a position you choose to come from. Now, never verbalize this attitude, for Christ sake. Don’t get right in a woman’s face and say, “being with me is the best choice you can make, baby. But show it in how you act.
2. I consistently display the willingness to walk away: This is one MOST “chumps” miss. You see, if a woman doesn’t get, somewhere in her mind, that she could POSSIBLY do something to lose you, she will never really feel deep passion for you. If you are ALWAYS there for her, no matter what, then in the back of her mind, she will de-value you, to a greater or lesser degree. Somewhere, somehow, in the back of her mind (or even the front) she must realize that she COULD one day lose you!
3. I give a woman a little bit of what she wants, and then pull back and make her work for more: As sad as it seems, if you are too giving to a woman, too soon, you come off as hungry and needy and she just winds up dumping you. You see, guys who are successful with women give a free sample, but nice guy losers give away the store. You should, no MUST learn to say “no”, make yourself a little scarce and unavailable, and keep her a little bit in doubt.
4. I always come from the place of being determined to do what works: So many times I’ve had people whine to me, “Why can’t I just be myself?” What that really means is, “I want to be lazy and do what I’ve always done all along, even though it doesn’t work!” Look, to really win big in life, you have to be consistent. And that means applying these principles, all the time, even when you don’t particularly feel like it, and especially if you are in a slump.
5. I never attach excess meaning to winning or losing with women. I can (and will) do a whole issue on this one, but basically what I mean is to realize that if a woman accepts you, it doesn’t mean that the next one will, so stay on your toes, and don’t get lazy or sloppy. (See item #4 directly above). And if she rejects you, it just means that the approach you tried, at this particular time, with this particular woman, hasn’t worked…yet. It might work at another time with her, or you may just need another approach. Even if it doesn’t, as I once told a friend of mine who only thought he saw me get rejected… Dan, I never get rejected. I only discover if a woman has good taste!
6. I don’t need to win all the time; I size up a woman’s potential and either go for it or move on and cut my losses FAST: Sometimes the best choice is just to say, “adios” and move on. When you realize that you don’t have to win all the time, and then it takes the pressure off and you become much more relaxed. Ironically, and paradoxically, this almost always leads to your winning far more often than you ever imagined possible!
7. I never know what physical type a woman will go for so I always for it congruently and powerfully: Listen: women are much more individualistic in what they like, physically speaking. I once had a gorgeous young thing tell me that if Mel Gibson or Tom Cruise asked her out, she’d say, “no” because she only liked tall, thin black men!! You just don’t know, so go for it anyway.

Aren’t those just great? Can you imagine how great you’ll do with women when you have these attitudes down and are manifesting them in your life?

Author: Ross Jeffries, a pioneer in the global seduction community and creator of Speed Seduction method

I can say from experience that the majority who use my service have already met their partner in person however something about their partner just doesn’t quite add up and they are looking for reassurance. This typically refers to the person either already being in a relationship with someone else or is being deceptive about a particular area of their personal or professional life.

With this aside, I strongly agree with Sandy that there is a place for basic screening methods which should be implemented by Dating Sites. Having just returned from Malaysia after successfully arresting a romance scammer, I can say that this is a widespread problem which will only get worse. There is also very little that can be done to recover the money once it has been sent and smart men and women are being fooled by these parasites who are lurking all over the Internet. Scammers typically do not steal full identities – they commonly just use photographs of innocent people and make up a name and background story. This can easily be confirmed through our cross referencing process which we use, however I always stick by the rule of thumb, that if a person you meet online dating asks you for money and you haven’t met them yet, then they are ALWAYS a scammer.

I can honestly say that I have experienced little co-operation from dating sites on attempting to notify them of a scammer operating on their site. Certainly not from the major dating sites which is the most disappointing.

To prevent scammers on dating sites I strongly recommend the following:

1. All profiles must state which country they are from, and the country must match the IP address they are logging in from.
2. All IP addresses must be recorded.
3. Preferably, a credit card number or verified Paypal account should be required as part of the setting up process.
4. All dating sites should have a user alert system in place, that if someone detects a profile is a scammer the account is suspended until the user can provide appropriate confirmation. Typically scammers will just close the profile and set up again rather than go to the trouble of providing confirmation which they do not have. The IP address can then be blacklisted to prevent further usage.

Unfortunately this type of prevention is expensive for the smaller sites, so for them I would recommend awareness. When joining the site, a special page should be introduced which all users must confirm they have read warning them of scammers and their typical methods of how they operate. Awareness and prevention is the best method for scammers, as the majority who are victims of this simply were not aware of the signs.

source: Julia Robson, Private Investigato for DateScreen in Australia

This is Motivated by one of the latest threads, I wanted to share a simple method to stop masturbation addiction.

If you have a wish to stop but cannot resist then the clove oil is to amplify that wish and overcome the desire. Pure clove oil is widely available in supermarkets and pharmacies internationally as a tooth ache remedy. If it doesn’t come with a dropper you can use a different bottle, eye dropper, or cotton swab.

The method:

When aroused and wanting or doing masturbation put 1 or 2 drops (up to 4) on the glans of the penis (the head or tip of the penis). After a few seconds you will experience varying amounts of great pain which will last a few minutes.

If you put too much, the pain is too great, or the oil touched the testicles then smother the area with olive oil for quick relief. During the pain walk around and kick backwards to shake the inner thighs to move that energy around. The erection will shrink and the desire has been associated with pain. Therefore the number of masturbations will reduce overtime.

After long periods of not using this method or an alternative then the desire will come back and the association will dissipate. The only side effect I experienced was increased heat and redding of the eyes, these went away after eating cold foods such as cucumber, purple cabbage and black cohosh herbal supplement.

I tried this method and it was very effective. Now it is enough to keep the bottle nearby and imagine the pain instead of actually using the oil. I keep a small bottle of clove oil with a dropper nearby or get a smaller bottle and tie it to make a necklace to hang nearby to remind yourself and to be ready (if I’m not practicing then at least I’m not masturbating). It might be possible to use an eye dropper but I haven’t tried.

Notes:

The clove oil method is a stopgap pain-based solution with limited functionality until a better solution is achieved. It is intended for cases of extreme masturbation addiction where health is drastically affected. No philosophy, qigong, yoga, meditation, training, or practice. Only pain the body understands immediately. In effect it is like hitting and scolding a child because it badly misbehaved. The end result is saving the vital jing until it is better managed. (I saw animal parents hitting and shouting at their offspring when they did something wrong, so aversion therapy works regardless of the consequences.)

My understanding of cultivation is to stop leakages and reduce stress and cultivate and use the accumulated energy or meditate and it will expand naturally.

Stopping leakages includes diet quality and quantity control, avoiding emotional extremes, regulating the senses, and regulating sexual engagements.

source: Tao Bums Forum

1) Not Knowing What You Want

After working with over 300 men since 2006 I have found the single biggest factor that keeps both a man or a woman single is that they don’t know what they want. So I work with them as a dating coach to get clarity on what they really want.

Shyness or insecurity around woman is the reality. Men don’t feel like they can be the selector in the dating game. And feel like it’s either by accident or by chance they meet a woman also interested in them.

2) Being Yourself

Being yourself is what got to be alone in the first place. You have to ask yourself, “Do I like myself?” or “Would I date myself?” Chances are very likely you don’t like yourself, so you cannot expect anyone else to like you let alone become attracted to you.

So how to you make a change for the better? You have to cultivate a deep curiosity about yourself. You start by reading more about people who share your birthday, your star sign or personality type, talk to people close to you to find out what they genuinely like about you. Focus on doing more of that.

3) Not Wanting Her To Know You’re Sexually Attracted To Her

Your best chances of a yes response for a date request is be direct. Most guys make silly excuses like wanting to buy a drink or getting to know them better. You can go direct by opening with this line, “I like you, and I want to get to know you.” Let her respond to this. And if she says anything negative, you respond with, “…well if nothing else, we can be friends.” And continue talking to her. Even if the woman you’re talking to is physically attractive, you may not enjoy her personality. So be sure to qualify her by finding out what common interests you have. If there’s none, I’d let this one go.

4) Bad First Dates

The worst dates are movies and/or dinner. Dinner becomes too much of a chore answering questions like a job interview. Activity based dates are the best. So arrange a game of putt-putt, tenpin bowling or salsa dancing. All these have built in conversation which makes it easier for you to build rapport and even get physical. The whole point of the first dates is to find out whether you want to spend more time with this woman. So if you choose a bad first date you’re bound to create pressure on you or her. The best first dates defuse the tension that’s created from the pent up expectations.

5) Caring What Other People Think

When you grow up your parents, your teachers and friends help you to formulate your self-beliefs. This is what’s called society programming. The society programming becomes stronger and stronger as you get older. People who break the rules often end up as outsiders, end up in prison or even mental institutions. Some may join gangs or even become depressed. The key to success is to believe in what you think about yourself, before you care about what other people think about you. So for example, can do you feel embarrassed that your parents know you’re having sex? Do you feel embarrassed that other people know you are interested in sex? Society programming makes your punish yourself from the media, to the religions of the world. So stop caring what other’s think.